1 00:00:09,799 --> 00:00:06,010 [Music] 2 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:09,809 okay so I'm Harrison the title my talk 3 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:11,490 is the network architecture metabolism 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:14,130 on earth Tessa did a good job doing some 5 00:00:16,430 --> 00:00:15,330 introduction and networks and I'm gonna 6 00:00:18,830 --> 00:00:16,440 tell you why they're relevant to 7 00:00:20,870 --> 00:00:18,840 metabolism so basically what I mean by 8 00:00:22,370 --> 00:00:20,880 this is we're studying different types 9 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:22,380 of metabolism so metabolism of 10 00:00:26,570 --> 00:00:23,970 individuals metabolism of communities 11 00:00:29,089 --> 00:00:26,580 and you can represent metabolism as a 12 00:00:31,009 --> 00:00:29,099 chemical reaction network and when I say 13 00:00:32,330 --> 00:00:31,019 network architecture architecture just 14 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:32,340 refers to the structure of the network 15 00:00:36,100 --> 00:00:34,050 so just the different properties of the 16 00:00:39,970 --> 00:00:36,110 network itself this is work I do with 17 00:00:41,990 --> 00:00:39,980 the post secondary group and you Jason 18 00:00:43,940 --> 00:00:42,000 Raymond and Sarah Walker who are 19 00:00:45,470 --> 00:00:43,950 professors in the group and then Elife 20 00:00:47,420 --> 00:00:45,480 which is our research group which we'll 21 00:00:49,069 --> 00:00:47,430 have a few talks this afternoon 22 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:49,079 helps a lot with the input and feedback 23 00:00:57,139 --> 00:00:54,210 and stuff ok so it was really big for 24 00:00:59,540 --> 00:00:57,149 this talk this is basically what I want 25 00:01:01,610 --> 00:00:59,550 to talk about today so all life shares a 26 00:01:03,709 --> 00:01:01,620 common core metabolism what I'm 27 00:01:05,570 --> 00:01:03,719 interested in is is that chance or 28 00:01:07,310 --> 00:01:05,580 necessity is that required if you played 29 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:07,320 the tape of life again would you always 30 00:01:12,320 --> 00:01:09,450 get only one dominant metabolism on 31 00:01:13,780 --> 00:01:12,330 earth or would you get a couple origins 32 00:01:15,980 --> 00:01:13,790 of life that can coexist with each other 33 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:15,990 what we also want to do is quantify the 34 00:01:20,030 --> 00:01:18,450 structure of Earth metabolism so again 35 00:01:22,039 --> 00:01:20,040 the metabolism of individuals the 36 00:01:25,219 --> 00:01:22,049 metabolism of communities of all 37 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:25,229 different types of life what makes a 38 00:01:30,740 --> 00:01:28,770 koval microbial community special so if 39 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:30,750 you have a group of organisms that 40 00:01:34,969 --> 00:01:33,210 co-evolved together does that community 41 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:34,979 look different than a group of organisms 42 00:01:42,740 --> 00:01:39,090 that you put in fresh and you just 43 00:01:45,109 --> 00:01:42,750 watching them start to evolve cohabitate 44 00:01:46,550 --> 00:01:45,119 in the same space and then the last 45 00:01:48,469 --> 00:01:46,560 thing I want to address is could we be 46 00:01:51,380 --> 00:01:48,479 living alongside a shadow biosphere and 47 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:51,390 so by this I mean is could it be that 48 00:01:53,990 --> 00:01:52,770 there is a second origin of life on 49 00:01:55,490 --> 00:01:54,000 Earth that we just don't know about we 50 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:55,500 have been able attacked either because 51 00:01:59,630 --> 00:01:57,810 we don't have the right techniques or 52 00:02:01,100 --> 00:01:59,640 because it's living somewhere different 53 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:01,110 than where we are so it's physically 54 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:02,490 separated and that's what the bottom of 55 00:02:08,389 --> 00:02:05,610 this slide is showing so you can have 56 00:02:09,650 --> 00:02:08,399 ecologically separate biospheres or you 57 00:02:10,850 --> 00:02:09,660 can have ecologically integrated 58 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:10,860 biospheres or you could have 59 00:02:13,460 --> 00:02:12,450 biochemically integrated and then what I 60 00:02:16,130 --> 00:02:13,470 interpret that to mean 61 00:02:18,170 --> 00:02:16,140 is uses different sets of chemical 62 00:02:20,030 --> 00:02:18,180 reactions to sustain life but it is 63 00:02:24,290 --> 00:02:20,040 overlapping physically in the same space 64 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:24,300 as life as we know it so starting at the 65 00:02:31,340 --> 00:02:27,210 organism level we analyze 21,000 66 00:02:33,140 --> 00:02:31,350 bacterial genomes and 730 RKO genomes we 67 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:33,150 also have 26 metagenomes from 68 00:02:36,860 --> 00:02:35,130 Yellowstone the reason we have meta gems 69 00:02:38,450 --> 00:02:36,870 from Yellowstone is probably a lot of 70 00:02:41,420 --> 00:02:38,460 you know is because it's really diverse 71 00:02:43,430 --> 00:02:41,430 environment so it's really great to look 72 00:02:46,220 --> 00:02:43,440 at the mix of species across different 73 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:46,230 pH and temperature ranges and then we 74 00:02:50,330 --> 00:02:48,290 also looked at the biosphere level so 75 00:02:55,070 --> 00:02:50,340 three different levels of biological 76 00:02:56,420 --> 00:02:55,080 organization and to get the to make a 77 00:02:59,810 --> 00:02:56,430 network from the biosphere we basically 78 00:03:02,900 --> 00:02:59,820 just use this keg database which has all 79 00:03:04,910 --> 00:03:02,910 the enzymatically catalyzed chemical 80 00:03:07,550 --> 00:03:04,920 reactions and we just treat those as if 81 00:03:09,190 --> 00:03:07,560 they're all part of one physical thing 82 00:03:11,270 --> 00:03:09,200 which they are which is the best for you 83 00:03:12,860 --> 00:03:11,280 so first I want to give you a little 84 00:03:15,890 --> 00:03:12,870 background networks again tested a good 85 00:03:17,810 --> 00:03:15,900 job this is a similar example so I have 86 00:03:19,820 --> 00:03:17,820 a highway network here and I represent 87 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:19,830 node cities as nodes and then just the 88 00:03:24,949 --> 00:03:22,290 highways between cities are the links or 89 00:03:27,259 --> 00:03:24,959 the edges and this kind of network for a 90 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:27,269 highway most of your nodes have roughly 91 00:03:32,180 --> 00:03:29,970 the same number of links so you don't 92 00:03:33,650 --> 00:03:32,190 have any cities we have thousands of 93 00:03:35,180 --> 00:03:33,660 highways going out of them and you also 94 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:35,190 don't have very many cities where 95 00:03:38,330 --> 00:03:36,810 there's only one highway going out of 96 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:38,340 them and so this is what this 97 00:03:42,110 --> 00:03:40,410 distribution looks like if you plot the 98 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:42,120 number of nodes with a certain number of 99 00:03:45,590 --> 00:03:43,410 links and then the number of links on 100 00:03:47,810 --> 00:03:45,600 the y axis so most of your nodes have 101 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:47,820 the same number of links this is as 102 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:50,250 opposed to like an airport network where 103 00:03:55,580 --> 00:03:52,290 you represent nodes as airports and then 104 00:03:57,860 --> 00:03:55,590 that the traveling between the airports 105 00:04:00,470 --> 00:03:57,870 is the links you do get hubs like 106 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:00,480 Chicago Boston or LA but you also have 107 00:04:04,070 --> 00:04:02,370 hundreds or thousands of regional 108 00:04:06,380 --> 00:04:04,080 airports that only fly to a few places 109 00:04:08,090 --> 00:04:06,390 and so those are all right here where 110 00:04:10,580 --> 00:04:08,100 you have a lot of nodes with only a few 111 00:04:12,020 --> 00:04:10,590 links and then your big hubs are down at 112 00:04:13,310 --> 00:04:12,030 the tail of the distribution where you 113 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:13,320 have a few hubs with a large number of 114 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:15,090 links so you can represent lots of 115 00:04:18,620 --> 00:04:16,410 things as networks this is an example 116 00:04:23,180 --> 00:04:18,630 that's really easy to understand but we 117 00:04:25,090 --> 00:04:23,190 represent communities and individuals as 118 00:04:28,990 --> 00:04:25,100 networks as well 119 00:04:30,670 --> 00:04:29,000 and so what we do is other people go out 120 00:04:33,970 --> 00:04:30,680 and collect samples at Yellowstone and 121 00:04:36,820 --> 00:04:33,980 got these microbial community samples 122 00:04:38,290 --> 00:04:36,830 from hotspring ecosystems and then you 123 00:04:40,570 --> 00:04:38,300 can turn the gene fragments that you 124 00:04:42,700 --> 00:04:40,580 sample into chemical reaction networks 125 00:04:44,290 --> 00:04:42,710 and so for those of you they want all 126 00:04:47,350 --> 00:04:44,300 the details this is a little bit more 127 00:04:49,630 --> 00:04:47,360 detail right here so you match the genes 128 00:04:51,370 --> 00:04:49,640 with the enzymes that they code for you 129 00:04:52,690 --> 00:04:51,380 match the enzymes with the reactions 130 00:04:54,100 --> 00:04:52,700 that you know that they catalyze and 131 00:04:55,900 --> 00:04:54,110 then you put all those reactions 132 00:04:58,060 --> 00:04:55,910 together into one big Network and that's 133 00:05:00,310 --> 00:04:58,070 what we analyze so you do this for 134 00:05:02,590 --> 00:05:00,320 metagenomes and you can also do this for 135 00:05:05,260 --> 00:05:02,600 individual genomes the difference is we 136 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:05,270 collect the metagenomes out in the field 137 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:07,130 and the individual genomes we just pull 138 00:05:13,420 --> 00:05:08,810 from Patric which is a database online 139 00:05:15,790 --> 00:05:13,430 of all these genomes ok so here's kind 140 00:05:18,820 --> 00:05:15,800 of the first results this is just some 141 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:18,830 network stats of real metagenomes and 142 00:05:23,260 --> 00:05:20,810 just real genomes and the biosphere so 143 00:05:25,150 --> 00:05:23,270 here's a little key right here and on 144 00:05:28,570 --> 00:05:25,160 this top plot I'm showing the shortest 145 00:05:30,220 --> 00:05:28,580 path of a network a shortest path is I'm 146 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:30,230 giving you a little example here so this 147 00:05:35,410 --> 00:05:33,410 is your network the blue numbers are the 148 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:35,420 shortest paths from F to that node and 149 00:05:38,530 --> 00:05:37,370 then if you do this for every possible 150 00:05:40,270 --> 00:05:38,540 combination of nodes in your network and 151 00:05:42,370 --> 00:05:40,280 you average it you get a single number 152 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:42,380 and you get one of those numbers for 153 00:05:46,990 --> 00:05:45,530 each of the 21,000 bacterial genomes 154 00:05:48,550 --> 00:05:47,000 that we analyzed each of the 700 are 155 00:05:50,890 --> 00:05:48,560 Keele genomes all the metagenomes the 156 00:05:53,710 --> 00:05:50,900 biosphere and then we plot it right here 157 00:05:55,630 --> 00:05:53,720 and if you notice everything kind of 158 00:05:58,660 --> 00:05:55,640 lumps together there's no clear 159 00:06:01,570 --> 00:05:58,670 distinguish distinguishing shortest 160 00:06:04,090 --> 00:06:01,580 paths for either the individual genomes 161 00:06:06,340 --> 00:06:04,100 or the metagenomes the biosphere is way 162 00:06:07,930 --> 00:06:06,350 over here but that's just because the 163 00:06:09,850 --> 00:06:07,940 size the network if you notice it has a 164 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:09,860 similar shortest path and this is just a 165 00:06:13,900 --> 00:06:12,410 box plot representation of that data we 166 00:06:15,100 --> 00:06:13,910 also looked at the mean degree we looked 167 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:15,110 at a bunch of things I'm just showing 168 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:18,650 you a snapshot of what we looked at the 169 00:06:22,990 --> 00:06:20,690 mean degree is just the number of nodes 170 00:06:24,100 --> 00:06:23,000 that each node is connected to and you 171 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:24,110 look at that for every node and you 172 00:06:27,670 --> 00:06:25,970 average it and so here's another little 173 00:06:29,380 --> 00:06:27,680 example you do that for each of the 174 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:29,390 networks and this time it's interesting 175 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:31,970 because here you notice the real 176 00:06:37,210 --> 00:06:34,970 metagenomes in yellow stand out from all 177 00:06:38,629 --> 00:06:37,220 the individual genomes so this 178 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:38,639 particular measure 179 00:06:44,629 --> 00:06:42,210 can identify or distinguish communities 180 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:44,639 from individuals you can see that here 181 00:06:50,689 --> 00:06:46,530 on the box plot and then this is the 182 00:06:52,879 --> 00:06:50,699 biosphere keg on the right side so then 183 00:06:54,950 --> 00:06:52,889 we did another thing and this ties back 184 00:06:57,230 --> 00:06:54,960 to the question the beginning of how do 185 00:06:59,390 --> 00:06:57,240 you co-evolved communities look compared 186 00:07:00,860 --> 00:06:59,400 to communities that are just starting to 187 00:07:02,119 --> 00:07:00,870 evolve together so maybe you've some 188 00:07:04,159 --> 00:07:02,129 kind of big perturbation and 189 00:07:05,809 --> 00:07:04,169 everything's kind of R equal abrading in 190 00:07:07,010 --> 00:07:05,819 a community do those communities look 191 00:07:08,749 --> 00:07:07,020 different than communities that have 192 00:07:10,730 --> 00:07:08,759 been Co evolving for millions of years 193 00:07:12,740 --> 00:07:10,740 and so the way that we decided to 194 00:07:14,899 --> 00:07:12,750 measure that is was something I'm 195 00:07:16,580 --> 00:07:14,909 calling synthetic communities so what we 196 00:07:18,350 --> 00:07:16,590 do is we sample individuals these are 197 00:07:21,110 --> 00:07:18,360 real genomes these are the genomes that 198 00:07:22,820 --> 00:07:21,120 we pull from the databases online and 199 00:07:24,769 --> 00:07:22,830 then you just take random samples of 200 00:07:26,899 --> 00:07:24,779 them and you put them together and you 201 00:07:28,459 --> 00:07:26,909 say ok this is a community even though 202 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:28,469 they didn't co-evolved in the real world 203 00:07:32,659 --> 00:07:31,050 they were completely separate you just 204 00:07:35,540 --> 00:07:32,669 call them I said then we're calling them 205 00:07:37,369 --> 00:07:35,550 a synthetic community okay so then we 206 00:07:40,309 --> 00:07:37,379 analyze that this is the plots from the 207 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:40,319 last slide that you just saw so do you 208 00:07:43,490 --> 00:07:41,610 think he'd be able to distinguish 209 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:43,500 synthetic communities from real 210 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:45,690 co-evolved communities with networked 211 00:07:50,719 --> 00:07:49,650 measures any inkling absolutely so 212 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:50,729 that's what we thought too but it's 213 00:07:55,010 --> 00:07:53,370 really weird because you don't and so 214 00:07:56,749 --> 00:07:55,020 this is only for two particular measures 215 00:07:58,790 --> 00:07:56,759 again we did this for lots of different 216 00:08:01,279 --> 00:07:58,800 network measures and you see the same 217 00:08:02,839 --> 00:08:01,289 thing over and over which is these are 218 00:08:05,260 --> 00:08:02,849 the sizes of the synthetic communities 219 00:08:08,029 --> 00:08:05,270 so just random samples of 10 20 30 or 40 220 00:08:08,959 --> 00:08:08,039 individuals and then this is these are 221 00:08:11,119 --> 00:08:08,969 the real metagenomes 222 00:08:13,100 --> 00:08:11,129 and they all fall pretty much within the 223 00:08:15,079 --> 00:08:13,110 same range for these particular measures 224 00:08:16,189 --> 00:08:15,089 the mean degree in the shortest path and 225 00:08:18,559 --> 00:08:16,199 so that's kind of weird 226 00:08:20,089 --> 00:08:18,569 so there are measures where they they 227 00:08:21,619 --> 00:08:20,099 get distinguished a little bit more or 228 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:21,629 they're a little bit more fuzzy but in 229 00:08:25,969 --> 00:08:24,330 general there's no clear measure that 230 00:08:29,119 --> 00:08:25,979 you can use to distinguish synthetic 231 00:08:31,279 --> 00:08:29,129 communities from real communities so the 232 00:08:33,230 --> 00:08:31,289 last thing we wanted to look at was okay 233 00:08:34,909 --> 00:08:33,240 what if you had individuals that came 234 00:08:36,680 --> 00:08:34,919 together to form a community and all 235 00:08:39,230 --> 00:08:36,690 these individuals relied on different 236 00:08:42,170 --> 00:08:39,240 core metabolisms and so that's kind of a 237 00:08:44,660 --> 00:08:42,180 hard thing to study because we don't 238 00:08:46,430 --> 00:08:44,670 know of any other origins of life so 239 00:08:50,449 --> 00:08:46,440 what we did is we tried to make it a 240 00:08:52,310 --> 00:08:50,459 little toy chemistry's from the real 241 00:08:54,110 --> 00:08:52,320 individuals so what we did is 242 00:08:56,210 --> 00:08:54,120 we took the real individual networks and 243 00:08:59,270 --> 00:08:56,220 all we did was we shuffle the labels of 244 00:09:00,920 --> 00:08:59,280 the compounds of the metabolites and so 245 00:09:02,810 --> 00:09:00,930 effectively what this does is it keeps 246 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:02,820 the topology of the network the same it 247 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:05,370 keeps all the links the same but what it 248 00:09:10,940 --> 00:09:07,650 does is it mixes up 249 00:09:13,010 --> 00:09:10,950 just these node labels and what happens 250 00:09:13,940 --> 00:09:13,020 is when you combine networks even though 251 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:13,950 they look the same when they're 252 00:09:17,150 --> 00:09:15,930 individual with the shuffled labels when 253 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:17,160 you combine them the network's 254 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:18,330 completely different because now 255 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:19,770 different parts of the network are 256 00:09:23,630 --> 00:09:22,170 overlapping and so again this is to 257 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:23,640 simulate what would happen if you had 258 00:09:28,370 --> 00:09:26,610 different core metabolisms of 259 00:09:32,300 --> 00:09:28,380 individuals forming a community together 260 00:09:34,340 --> 00:09:32,310 what would that network look like okay 261 00:09:37,250 --> 00:09:34,350 and this is work it's kind of weird so 262 00:09:38,750 --> 00:09:37,260 on the left-hand side of these box plots 263 00:09:40,070 --> 00:09:38,760 you can't really read the labels but 264 00:09:42,410 --> 00:09:40,080 again I'm showing you shortest paths I 265 00:09:44,930 --> 00:09:42,420 mean degree on the left side we see all 266 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:44,940 the real communities all the real 267 00:09:50,180 --> 00:09:48,330 individual genomes and the biosphere and 268 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:50,190 we see the synthetic networks again they 269 00:09:53,630 --> 00:09:52,050 don't really stand out but starting here 270 00:09:55,940 --> 00:09:53,640 where it says nuts 10 and it goes down 271 00:09:58,100 --> 00:09:55,950 and that's 70 these are these artificial 272 00:10:01,790 --> 00:09:58,110 communities and artificial communities 273 00:10:03,350 --> 00:10:01,800 really diverge from the architecture of 274 00:10:05,570 --> 00:10:03,360 the real communities and the real 275 00:10:07,550 --> 00:10:05,580 individuals and this is kind of 276 00:10:11,420 --> 00:10:07,560 surprising and they diverge in a certain 277 00:10:13,100 --> 00:10:11,430 way this isn't the clearest legend so 278 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:13,110 I'll just walk you through it here so on 279 00:10:16,790 --> 00:10:14,970 the left again we have the real 280 00:10:18,860 --> 00:10:16,800 individuals the real community the 281 00:10:20,930 --> 00:10:18,870 biosphere and then the synthetic 282 00:10:23,300 --> 00:10:20,940 communities and then all these nuts 283 00:10:25,370 --> 00:10:23,310 labels are these artificial communities 284 00:10:27,530 --> 00:10:25,380 and so with these networks they have a 285 00:10:29,330 --> 00:10:27,540 particular type of distribution which is 286 00:10:31,550 --> 00:10:29,340 similar to a power-law distribution or a 287 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:31,560 log normal distribution and what that 288 00:10:34,610 --> 00:10:32,970 tells you is how the network is 289 00:10:37,460 --> 00:10:34,620 constructed and also tells you something 290 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:37,470 about the robustness of the network and 291 00:10:42,290 --> 00:10:40,530 so these networks are known from network 292 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:42,300 science to be robust these power losses 293 00:10:45,500 --> 00:10:44,610 log normal networks but then when you 294 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:45,510 start looking at the artificial 295 00:10:49,010 --> 00:10:47,370 communities you see that their log 296 00:10:50,450 --> 00:10:49,020 normal which is okay but then as you 297 00:10:51,860 --> 00:10:50,460 grow these networks bigger and bigger 298 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:51,870 they become exponential and these 299 00:10:57,110 --> 00:10:53,970 exponential distributions are less 300 00:10:59,240 --> 00:10:57,120 robust and by robust in this context 301 00:11:01,610 --> 00:10:59,250 would mean you get some kind of mutation 302 00:11:03,980 --> 00:11:01,620 you get some kind of perturbation to the 303 00:11:04,930 --> 00:11:03,990 community and does the community recover 304 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:04,940 it does not recover 305 00:11:08,290 --> 00:11:06,890 so you wouldn't see these communities be 306 00:11:10,780 --> 00:11:08,300 you wouldn't see these communities 307 00:11:15,820 --> 00:11:10,790 recovering and so we interpret that to 308 00:11:18,010 --> 00:11:15,830 mean loosely that a shadow biosphere is 309 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:18,020 unlikely to be ecologically integrated 310 00:11:21,220 --> 00:11:19,850 with our biosphere so maybe you could 311 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:21,230 have certain types of shadow biospheres 312 00:11:25,870 --> 00:11:24,050 like this ecologically separate one so 313 00:11:27,190 --> 00:11:25,880 maybe like in the deep earth below life 314 00:11:30,750 --> 00:11:27,200 as we know it there's other types of 315 00:11:33,550 --> 00:11:30,760 life living and maybe there's integrated 316 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:33,560 other biospheres but the integrated 317 00:11:36,100 --> 00:11:34,850 biospheres would have to be using some 318 00:11:37,930 --> 00:11:36,110 different kind of information storage 319 00:11:39,730 --> 00:11:37,940 system than us so instead of DNA they'd 320 00:11:41,230 --> 00:11:39,740 have to be using something different but 321 00:11:43,710 --> 00:11:41,240 what we think we can rule out is that 322 00:11:47,470 --> 00:11:43,720 you'd see other types of life that's 323 00:11:49,210 --> 00:11:47,480 using different core reactions to 324 00:11:51,700 --> 00:11:49,220 sustain themselves living right 325 00:11:53,410 --> 00:11:51,710 alongside life as we know it and that's 326 00:11:54,490 --> 00:11:53,420 what this last point is driven by these 327 00:11:56,140 --> 00:11:54,500 results from these artificial 328 00:11:58,780 --> 00:11:56,150 communities the other results that I 329 00:12:00,850 --> 00:11:58,790 just wanted to recap are you see 330 00:12:03,010 --> 00:12:00,860 Universal topological features four 331 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:03,020 different levels of the biosphere of 332 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:03,770 different levels of biological 333 00:12:08,710 --> 00:12:05,810 organization of individuals communities 334 00:12:10,510 --> 00:12:08,720 and the biosphere as a whole and 335 00:12:14,560 --> 00:12:10,520 co-evolved communities are mostly 336 00:12:16,390 --> 00:12:14,570 indistinguishable from non co-evolved 337 00:12:18,390 --> 00:12:16,400 communities and that's what we saw with 338 00:12:20,530 --> 00:12:18,400 the synthetic versus the real networks 339 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:20,540 but then the artificial communities are 340 00:12:24,100 --> 00:12:22,370 weird and that's where we make this 341 00:12:26,650 --> 00:12:24,110 inference about the shadow biosphere and 342 00:12:28,660 --> 00:12:26,660 then just recapping the points that 343 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:28,670 brought up at the beginning is this 344 00:12:32,260 --> 00:12:30,050 transfer necessity that all I showed is 345 00:12:34,090 --> 00:12:32,270 common core metabolism this seems a hint 346 00:12:37,510 --> 00:12:34,100 this is necessity you wouldn't see two 347 00:12:40,030 --> 00:12:37,520 types of life living coexisting together 348 00:12:41,530 --> 00:12:40,040 in the same physical space we quantified 349 00:12:43,180 --> 00:12:41,540 the structure of Earth and tabal isms 350 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:43,190 what makes it co-evolved microbial 351 00:12:47,560 --> 00:12:46,130 community special not much there are 352 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:47,570 some measures that they're distinguished 353 00:12:52,030 --> 00:12:49,610 a little bit but not but most of the 354 00:12:53,170 --> 00:12:52,040 measures they look pretty similar who 355 00:12:55,810 --> 00:12:53,180 would be living alongside a she had a 356 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:55,820 biosphere well yes but not this 357 00:13:00,370 --> 00:12:57,770 particular type where your biochemically 358 00:13:04,949 --> 00:13:00,380 integrated so with that thank you and 359 00:13:13,690 --> 00:13:11,320 we have time for a few questions thanks 360 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:13,700 that was really cool with regard to the 361 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:14,930 not being able to distinguish the 362 00:13:18,550 --> 00:13:16,610 co-evolved communities from ones you 363 00:13:20,410 --> 00:13:18,560 just start again isn't that definitely a 364 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:20,420 signal to noise problem like if you 365 00:13:26,590 --> 00:13:22,850 start removing core consistent things 366 00:13:28,090 --> 00:13:26,600 that that signal will come up I'm not 367 00:13:29,740 --> 00:13:28,100 sure what you mean exactly so if you 368 00:13:31,329 --> 00:13:29,750 take away all core metabolism that's 369 00:13:32,769 --> 00:13:31,339 shared across everything sure and then 370 00:13:35,139 --> 00:13:32,779 look at them I mean I feel like your 371 00:13:35,980 --> 00:13:35,149 artificial part kind of shows right it's 372 00:13:38,230 --> 00:13:35,990 going yeah 373 00:13:39,850 --> 00:13:38,240 and that's I guess that's in hindsight 374 00:13:41,170 --> 00:13:39,860 that kind of makes sense right because 375 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:41,180 if you take a bunch of things that 376 00:13:45,130 --> 00:13:43,370 already shared this common core then 377 00:13:47,079 --> 00:13:45,140 they're gonna look similar to things 378 00:13:49,980 --> 00:13:47,089 that are COBOL but the same core anyways 379 00:13:52,210 --> 00:13:49,990 right is that kind of what you're saying 380 00:13:56,380 --> 00:13:52,220 okay maybe not 381 00:14:01,389 --> 00:13:56,390 we can talk after if you are any other 382 00:14:03,250 --> 00:14:01,399 questions while really naive your 383 00:14:04,540 --> 00:14:03,260 question on how I deal with the graph so 384 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:04,550 there are two kinds of notes you have 385 00:14:08,889 --> 00:14:07,010 reactions because I have species I'm 386 00:14:11,680 --> 00:14:08,899 sorry you also have like the genetic 387 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:11,690 sequences I guess so do you distinguish 388 00:14:14,769 --> 00:14:13,490 those two kinds of nodes or do Shrunk 389 00:14:17,650 --> 00:14:14,779 the reactions when you account the 390 00:14:18,699 --> 00:14:17,660 distance so the we construct two 391 00:14:20,050 --> 00:14:18,709 different types of networks for the 392 00:14:21,730 --> 00:14:20,060 analysis depending on the measures were 393 00:14:24,490 --> 00:14:21,740 looking at so what type of the network 394 00:14:26,019 --> 00:14:24,500 has nodes for reactions and nodes for 395 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:26,029 metabolites and then metabolites are 396 00:14:29,410 --> 00:14:27,890 connected to the reactions if they're 397 00:14:31,090 --> 00:14:29,420 shared as part of the same reaction the 398 00:14:32,199 --> 00:14:31,100 other one we just do metabolites and you 399 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:32,209 connect those that those are part of the 400 00:14:35,829 --> 00:14:34,010 same reaction and so depending on what 401 00:14:37,650 --> 00:14:35,839 measure we're looking at we do analysis 402 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:37,660 I'm one of those two types of networks 403 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:40,130 so for like the distance like the 404 00:14:44,829 --> 00:14:42,770 shortest path what we do is we do it for 405 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:44,839 the substrate substrate networks so just 406 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:50,930 the metabolite sorry no we don't do any 407 00:14:56,519 --> 00:14:52,610 way that edges here these are all simple 408 00:15:01,519 --> 00:14:56,529 graphs any other questions